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Principles of Finance: Unit 7, Figuring Out Discount Rates In Net Present Value Calculations 5 Views


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principles of finance a la shmoop figuring out discount rates in net

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present value calculations well let's start simply people we're taking a view [Blade Runner drone company logo]

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of your drone company Bladerunner a few years after its IPO tweaking the numbers [person writing numbers]

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so that they you know live in this vacuum well here are the numbers you [person vacuuming room]

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internally believe at this moment as they relate to your future a billion of

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revenues this year 1.2 next one point for the next and one point six the year

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after that cash earnings have 300 and 400 and 500 and 600 and note the big

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focus on cash earnings here your company has had a ton of capex or capital

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expenditure to build its own battery and assembly and other automated plant so it

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has a ton of depreciation and still filtering through the income statement

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right like the cash has already gone out to buy those things and now the

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buildings and stuff have to be depreciated in fact in this year of 300 [white board with numbers]

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million in cash earnings the GAAP accounting earnings are just a hundred

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million because the company is depreciating two hundred million dollars

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of previously spent capital on its battery plant will blad your Bladerunner

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stock ticker is trading today such that gives you a capitalization or market

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capitalization of 20 times this year's cash earnings of 300 million bucks or

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market value of 6 billion dollars well the company has 500 million in cash on

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the books and no debt so it's equity capitalization is 5.5 billion well the

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stock used to have 20 million shares outstanding but for the purposes of

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making it easier to digest in this course the company kindly split its

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stock five for one so that now there are exactly a hundred million shares

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outstanding and those shares today trade for 60 bucks each and just for

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super-duper clarity note that what you get for that 60 bucks you get five bucks

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in cash you get cash profits or cash earnings this year of 3 bucks you get a

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projected 4 bucks of cash earnings next year and then 5 the next in 6 the next

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so if you believe these Grothe projections will actually happen well

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then you're paying 10 times cash earnings for the company 3 years from

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now and you mumble as well that well at that point the company will probably

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have something more like 10 or 15 or 20 bucks a share in cash beyond the 5

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dollars where they have in cash today well if in the out year

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the company has say 15 dollars a share in cash well then at a flat $60 stock

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price like it doesn't move for three years investors will then be paying $45

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for the earnings producing ability or equity value of the company at that

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point when it's supposed to produce six bucks home that would then be six

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dollars of cash profits against the $45 equity cap or a huge free cash flow

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yield yes that's what it's called of six dollars over forty five or about

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thirteen point three percent bottom line if the company hits its growth

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projections big if they're all else staying the same this stock ain't gonna [stock rising]

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be at sixty bucks in three years it'll be way higher so anyone yet noticed that

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the projections all have even numbers magically they grow revenues by two

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hundred million dollars a year in cash earnings by a hundred million dollars a

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year hmm sounds like deep accurate careful thinking to you [man working on laptop]

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well the idiot who put together these lazy estimates this guy just slap them [man at computer]

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into a Google sheet and mumbled anyone think he surveyed a hundred retailers

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and asked what they thought they'd be ordering next year and the next and the

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next did he survey the Google SEO search set of terms and figure out the volumes

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for qu and how many around the world are searching for keyword drone and what

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about talking to competitors or suppliers of blades and battery stuff in

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that food chain or drone insurance companies yeah yeah how about them did

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he do any of that research no crickets yeah that's what we thought well the

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goal here is to demonstrate how bad estimates are especially those you read

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from stockbroker Wall Street people you know sell-side analysts who have an

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agenda that doesn't necessarily revolve around being accurate with their [woman at desktop]

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projections remember they're incentivized by how they get paid and

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they don't get paid by being accurate and awesome with their projections if

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they were good at those and good at picking stocks they do that for living

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they wouldn't just live on taking commissions selling stock to other

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people in the old days investment banking fees were allocated largely

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around whichever stockbrokers analyst was the most bullish on the company's

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future prospects ie the one who had the highest priced target or the loudest set [bull charging at audience]

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of strong byes and all of that marketing

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would then in theory entice the company to hire that investment bank for their

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lucrative to the bank investment banking services right like banks get whopping

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commissions for doing secondary sales and other mergers and acquisitions

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consulting stuff so reality check what do these numbers actually mean and more

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importantly for this exercise how confident are you in the growth of

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20-ish percent and the increasing profit margins that in theory we're saying go

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with them if you're building a discounted cash flow analysis for this

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set of numbers you'll set a risk-free rate from US government paper that

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number's easy to find and doesn't carry a whole lot of relevant debate like

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five-year tea notes yielding in a two point six seven eight ish percent yeah

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easy that's your risk-free rate you can even

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call it three percent and sleep well at night but now what risk premium do you

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tack on to that dinner salad if you've been watching all things finance here [Shmoop website]

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shmoop and have no external hobbies friends or other activities well then [man sitting on bench outdoors]

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you'll remember that we framed the total discount rate analogous to going to a

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restaurant where the dinner salad is the cheapest item on the menu at three bucks [dinner menu]

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and everything else on the menu is some cost premium above that like the

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bacon-wrapped tater tots cost fifteen bucks then it's a dinner salad price

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plus twelve dollars in premium okay so back to your financial model and yeah

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I'm getting hungry too you did a billion bucks in revenue in

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this year you project growth of twenty percent next year and a bit less than

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twenty percent on the one point two billion the following year same with the

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neck if this were a long-distance business which only declines in revenues [stock declining]

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these days because everyone's using Skype and Google Hangouts and all the

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other stuff that's out there well then those twenty plus percent growth numbers

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would be insane crazy high numbers not going to happen if it were the

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advertising business on the internet nineteen ninety-seven those would be

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crazy low numbers everything estimated it's about context and in this case you

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make a very luxury good that is likely pretty cyclical like in bad times people [drones on production line]

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just ain't gonna shell out two grand to buy it it's basically just a relatively

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expensive hardware toy mostly for nerdy techie adults who are relatively wealthy [adult playing with drone in yard]

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like you know how many people really do have two grand to just throw away or and [hand drops money into bin then it washes up on ocean shore]

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let it just fly away anyway the heyday of 80% of your growth

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for Blade Runner is over and as you mature as a company in industry it's [white board with numbers]

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understandable that revenue growth rates will decline but if you follow the

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normal business cycle of most companies at this stage while profitability should

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accelerate why the expense of groundwork the fixed infrastructure for building [time lapse of builders on construction site]

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things distribution all that has been laid you've already spent the myriad

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millions to build the infrastructure you have in place now to pump out lots of [money on table then drones in production line]

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drones cheaply and efficiently so margin growth is definitely not a crazy pipe

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dream here in our estimates the bottom line you really do believe in xx percent

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growth rates that we're thinking through you believe in the increased profit

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margins here they're neither optimistic nor pessimistic and note that since you

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now have a relatively long and favorable track record the retail stores who want

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you are putting in advance orders like will take 10,000 extra units a quarter

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each quarter for the next year especially ahead of Christmas so you

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have even more confidence in your sales numbers okay so the revenue growth is

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tangibly there at least in theory and you'd feel a lot better about it if [man typing on laptop]

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you've done more survey and research homework and queried your various

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distribution partners as to what they thought they'd sell in your merchandise

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in the next few years but you're lazy and Wall Street e so you just kind of [man snoozing at laptop]

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sort a guest so that's revenue for better or worse as quality data driven [white board with numbers]

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guesstimate sand yeah let's dial in a little bit here on profits what about

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them well note that you used C e or cash earnings as your delimiter here

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depreciation took your 300 million of cash earnings down to just a hundred

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million in gap earnings so accounting in this sense even following the law

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following the rules actually distorts your real earnings or you're certainly

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your real earnings power and the depreciation rules here are kind of

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vague yours is a new industry with new techy product not yet really tested over [views of high tech cameras]

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time having put up a state-of-the-art battery and assembly plant well you

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don't really know how long it'll last should it be depreciated over ten years

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like the accounting law say should it be 20 50 100 you just have no idea so being

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a conservative little accounting geek and a friend of schmoops you chose 10 [man with broken glasses with Shmoop friend]

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years to depreciate that plant 90 percent that is you'll hole [numbers on white board]

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in ten years the value of the two billion dollars you spent on that

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battery plant to be just 200 million that means that you'll reduce your

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earnings a total of 1.8 billion by a hundred eighty million straight line a

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year over ten years another 20 million in other depreciation items brought you

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down to that subtracted depreciation of 200 million against the cash earnings of

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300 million to give you just that hundred million in gap earnings so yes

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all of this is conservative but it also makes your net income look smaller and

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who cares about that well investors care but they're smart

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enough to look through the accounting earnings they do it all the time and

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they look at your cash earnings who else cares it rhymes with SHM IRS yeah the

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IRS by showing a hundred eighty million less a year in earnings or 200 million [numbers on white board]

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you pay less in taxes that two hundred you subtracted from the three hundred

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your cash collected however is two hundred million dollars higher than that

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figure because depreciation is a non-cash expense and note that if the

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plant in factory lasts in 40 years well you've then massively overly

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conservatively overly depreciated your capital expenditures so that in a decade

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your gap earnings should be very close to your cash earnings all else being

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equal and yeah we're gonna ignore taxes at the moment well you focus heavily on

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where the cash is flowing because clever accountants can't really do much to hide [water slide]

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change or manipulate the actual cash in your coffers so how confident are you in

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the cash cost to produce these loads of drones well pretty confident in fact

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two-thirds of the costs are already booked years in advance contracts are [hand signs document]

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signed plastic goes from five grand a ton next year to forty eight hundred the

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next and then forty six and then forty four the other inputs follow the same

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volume-based caustic limes you know like semiconductors and control systems and

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guidance systems and probably even insurance well why are you going into

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all of this quote confidence checking unquote well because it affects the

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discount rate you apply to the future value of cash flows you think you'll be

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earning if the risk-free rate today is about a three percent well given above [numbers on white board]

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inputs you might only tack on a 5 percent risk premium which says that

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there's only a 1 in 20 shot that you don't hit these numbers are better

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really odds are only one in twenty that world

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conditions don't suddenly change only one in 20 that rich geeky adults still [time lapse of crowded side walk]

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love your toys three years from now like you know how fickle those guys are after

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the divorce or that your retailers honor the contracts they've put forth and you [hand rips contract]

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know they note that there is in fact an out clause on page 473 of the conical to

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the conical of the contract so that the retailers can get out with no obligation

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to sell anymore drones at the drop of a hat if they don't want to they can ship

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you back the inventory on their shelves and you have to buy it back from them at

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wholesale there's only a 1 in 20 shot that a drone lands on somebody's head [drone hits man on head]

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during your wedding vows and you get sued like it was your fault the pilot [man goes to court and is jailed]

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was lousy that's what the 5% risk premium says it's like it's almost a [numbers on white board]

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certainty in the bag feel good too you know you're gonna make that risk premium

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15 percent 20 30 some huge number and at least have some cushion here with a

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three and 20 odds so what does that mean well it means that you discount back the

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cash earnings to be one year away 400 million in cash our name gets divided by

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the quantity 1 plus 0.18 to the first power there see it's the first power

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because it's iterated one period or one year away and how do we get 18 well

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there's three percent risk-free rate plus the 15 risk rate we're tacking on

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there so 400 million divided by 1.1 8 there you go two years away we got 500

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million in cash earnings that we're notionally expecting that we truly think

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is 50/50 odds of happening all right well that gets divided by the quantity 1

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plus 0.1 is 1.1 it squared and then 3 years away got 600 million kasher and

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gets divided by the quantity 1.1 a yeah there you go well you think that by this

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time your company will be trading for a lower multiple than it trades today well

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because growth should be slowing and you guessed it it'll be trading for 15 times [stock growing]

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the following year's cash earnings of 600 million dollars or 9 billion bucks [numbers of white board]

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and you think the odds of that happening carry the same discount rates as you

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applied when evaluating whether or not you'd hit your operating metrics so that

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9 billion that eventual number gets divided by 1 plus 0.01 to the third

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power there and the math looks like this so we're gonna add them up and you get 6

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5 4 1 there are about six and a half billion dollars and note that during

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that time period your company will have generated well over a billion dollars in

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cash that will probably just sit on your

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balance sheet or maybe it'll be used to buy back stock or to buy another

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competitor or to add a water misting feature to your drones and you know for

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which customers will pay a very high profit margin additional hundred bucks a [drone sprays man]

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unit so yeah the discounting for time and risk here is high

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without that discounting and in an unfiltered vacuum the stream of cash

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flows would be notionally valued at you know almost eleven billion dollars so

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this math claims that the net present value of that stream of cash flows is [numbers on white board]

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not eleven billion it's six point five billion you discounted the cash flows at

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totally made-up but reasonably well thought out risk premiums to account for

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the myriad factors that affect your progress as a company from world [drones on store shelf]

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conditions in macro to the micro issues of a drone not working properly and you [world map]

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know turning I do into just [drone ruins wedding]

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